"The second office of this government is honourable and easy, the first is but a splendid misery."
The role of the US Vice President has changed dramatically since Thomas Jefferson wrote those words in 1797.
Only a heartbeat away from the presidency, the office of the Vice President has resulted in some of the most memorable moments in US history.
There have been accidental shootings, deliberate attacks and wars-of-words.
In this week's 'States of Mind' podcast, Brian and Jackie put the Vice President under the microscope and walk through the many controversies and successes.
America’s leading expert on VPs, Prof Joel Goldstein also takes a look at Mike Pence’s legacy and what's at stake for Joe Biden's running mate this year.
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