There are times when the most lasting impression music leaves is that its creators are old enough to know better - Metallica's fiasco 'St Anger', the U2 single 'Elevation', 99.9% of everything the Rolling Stones have done for the past 25 years.
So the prospect of Nick Cave and 3/7 of the Bad Seeds (Warren Ellis, Martyn P Casey, Jim Sclavunos) deciding to roll back the years and bring the noise may, on the surface, seem like another instance of musicians growing old disgracefully, especially given that Cave and the Bad Seeds' last outing, 'Abattoir Blues/The Lyre of Orpheus', ranked with their very best.
But Grinderman surprises for a number of reasons: Cave & Co show they can still put it up to garage rockers half their age, they sound like a band not a vanity project and this record is never hard work.
Here the humour is turned up just as loud as the amps and there's an irreverence to the lyrics which provides even more devil-may-care fuel for the arrangements.
Not every song is shot through with the genius that can be heard on 'Depth Charge Ethel' and 'Honey Bee (Let's Fly to Mars)', but there's no song here just making up the tracklisting.
By the close you'll want to hear another album and will be fascinated by the prospect that Cave and the Bad Seeds could go on tour and support themselves as Grinderman. If that happens, the headliners could have their work cut out.