In this week's Brainstorm podcast, we look into what's required to make our cities less car-dependant

Ella McSweeney cuts through the traffic with David O'Connor (TU Dublin) and Ulf Strohmayer (NUI Galway) to discover what would the car-free city of the future look like and what we have to do to achieve it.

This episode was produced by Peter Woods and research is by Louise Denvir.

READ: Stop the lights: how traffic influences our urban spaces

READ: How to improve the lot of commuters across Ireland

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