The Archbishop of Dublin, Diarmuid Martin, has said that he hopes the people surrounding the Pope allow him to speak freely on his visit to Ireland.

Pope Francis is due to arrive in August for a two-day visit for the World Meeting of Families.

In a wide-ranging interview on Sunday with Miriam on RTÉ Radio 1, the Archbishop said that he would like the Pope's visit to be inclusive, but stressed that it was a short visit.

"I'm worried that some of the protocol issues will take more time than meeting with the poor", he said.

He added that the Pope’s "great ability is to do things with gestures, particularly with people who are marginalised".

Asked who he would like the Pope to meet during his visit, the Archbishop mentioned struggling families, refugees, prisoners, the poor as well as victims of clerical abuse.

He said he would also like the Pontiff to learn something of the Traveller community as they have the highest child mortality rates in the country and large numbers in prison.

Archbishop Martin described Pope Francis as a complex figure, who was not all smiles. He said he is determined and knows when people are not being true to him and not being loyal.

He said: "He's nobody's fool. When he wants to do something, he'll do it."

During the interview, Archbishop Martin became upset as he recounted telling the Pope about the Tuam babies story.

This issue he said caused the Pope to become "visibly upset".

Speaking about the child abuse allegations against the late priest Malachy Finegan, Archbishop Martin said that he didn't know the details but that the stories were "horrendous".

"This man was horrible in the way he acted", he said.

"I don't know if people covered it up or were afraid to talk."

"Let the truth come out", he said, adding that if people did not have faith in the church investigation into the allegations, external people could verify it.

The Archbishop also addressed the recent comments of former president Mary McAleese on the "virus of misogyny" in the Catholic Church.

He acknowledged that misogyny is "obviously present in the church", and that "all of us have to examine our consciences to see where we are on this."