As well as serving up the tea and the laughs as one half of podcast I'm Grand Mam with co-host Kevin Twomey, PJ Kirby is known for serving on the dancefloor.
Before becoming on of the most popular Irish voices in podcasting, the Cork native had upped sticks and moved to London to train as a dancer, before meeting Twomey at a dance class.
Now, settled again in Ireland with his husband Jose, Kirby has been bringing the joy of dance to a new audience in dance class Throwing Shapes. Here, he joined Brendan Courtney on the Ray D'Arcy Show to talk about his journey.
Having secured a spot in the prestigious Urdang Academy in London, Kirby says he wanted to dance in music videos rather than the traditional musical theatre jobs the academy was focused on.
"Basically, I was reared on like, Honey Daniels' dance movies, Step Up, Step Up 1, Step Up 2, so I wanted that fantasy, then they had me singing, 'Oh, what a beautiful morning!' I was like, no, I don't want this!"
Before long, the performer dropped out and worked in a local dance studio and worked his way to fulfilling his dream of dancing in music videos for the likes of Calvin Harris.
"You spend years of your life training and like, going to so many classes but then you go to a music video and they're like, okay, can you step-click in the corner? That's all I do."
Kirby explains that the podcast came about as a "way of taking control of our creativity" amid the ups and downs of the dance world.
"We were going to auditions and I'm not great at getting feedback unless it's positive, you know what I mean?" he jokes, adding that he got rejections for everything from being too tall - 6' 4" - and too pale.
"It is so cut throat. It doesn't really matter how good you are, it's the look and all this stuff. And sorry now, I'm not rotten looking but they were making me very self conscious, Brendan!"
Having lived in London for 10 years, Kirby moved back to Ireland and found himself looking for a new dance class to join.
"I started it for people who love having a few drinks and hitting the dancefloor at the weekend but then want to do it when they're sober, or people who danced when they were younger - shout out my Billy Barry's kids, there's a lot of ex-Billy Barry's in there - and they want to come in and just shake a leg again."
He continues: "It is quite intimidating going into a room full of mirrors and dancing around the place if you hadn't had your vodka coke beforehand, but people are loving it! The community is just so lovely and people screaming for each other and you can see how confident people get week on week and it's just so beautiful to see."
The classes are strictly over 18s - as Kirby says, "there's loads of classes" for kids - and there's only one rule.
"At the beginning of the class I just say, the only rule is that you can't be mean to yourself. Irish people love to rip each other apart, rip themselves apart. Just for an hour, just leave that person who's in your brain outside and can we just be nice to ourselves for an hour?
"I always say we're trying to get back to that five-year-old who used to push your parents onto the couch and go, watch the dance I just made up! And then do like, a mediocre cartwheel, you know? A look how proud you were back then of that!"
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