Author and tarot card enthusiast Sarah Maria Griffin joined Jennifer Zamparelli on RTÉ 2FM to about the current trend of tarot cards. Listen back above.
"On a scale of one to 10, how witchy are you?" Jennifer asks.
"On the streets, I would say a six," answers Sarah, "but inside, about 10."
Having played with tarot cards since her teenage years, the author explains that she's always been attracted to the world of crystals and cards, but insists there's nothing paranormal at play.
"I don't really believe that bits of paper have any magic ability to them," she says, explaining that she has a "grounded" approach to tarot and uses the cards as a fun way to connect with people.
In fact, she believes that it is the storytelling aspect of the cards, as well as the freeing use of imagination, that has allowed them to endure for hundreds of years.
"There is something really special about sitting down with your friends around a deck of cards, and looking at pictures and asking each other about, like, 'What do you hope? What do you want? Let me tell you your future."
The pictures used on tarot cards are easily recognisable and, whether we realise it or not, Sarah says that people have been referring to those images to talk about each other's lives for a long time.
Although there are 78 cards in a deck, Sarah explains that there are "no bad cards" and the images that we may associate with something negative, such as a falling tower or an image of a skeleton, simply represent change.
"All of the cards are about little things that happen to us all of the time," she says. "Arguably, I could pull any card out of the deck and it could be about something that's happening to you right now. It's less about me dictating your future and more about us talking about what's going on. That's what I think is special about it."
With this in mind, Sarah says that "big feelings" can come up when playing with tarot cards depending on what the images bring to mind - this, she says, is why people should be careful when using them.
"It's quite intimate," she says. "Rather than conjuring any magic or conjuring any psychic ability, it's about telling each other about your lives."
To find out more about the rising popularity of tarot cards amongst women, listen back above.
