On this morning's Jennifer Zamparelli show on 2FM, Jennifer was joined in studio by Nina Doyle, a woman who gave birth to her twins in 2018 but, tragically, lost both of them within an hour of their arrival. Listen back above.
Following a round of IVF and multiple miscarriages, Nina went into labour at 22 weeks and six days with her twin babies Liam and Grace on 23rd March 2018.
"It was the scariest most terrifying experience for me and Alan," she explained. "But that all changed at 1:42 when I set eyes on Liam for the first time, it was just magical. When I saw Liam for the first time, he had just stopped breathing, just as he was born."
She continued: "The hospital had been very clear, I knew I was giving birth to babies who wouldn't survive but when they held him up, that rush of love was just there and they placed him on my chest".
Sadly, Liam passed away just as he made his entrance into the world and his sister Grace survived for just 31 minutes, all of which was spent breathing on her mother's chest.
"Seven minutes later, at 1:49, we heard this magical little whimper. After the silence of Liam....it was just....wow. She was laid on my chest right beside her big brother and I remember Alan saying to me, pretty quickly, that Liam had the tough birth and he had used all his energy to give his sister the energy to breathe."
"It was the happiest moment of my life," she told Jen.
Nina said coping with their death never gets any easier but what she spoke to Jennifer about was peoples reaction to her grief. Nina describes how she has literally seen people crossing the street to avoid her.
"The support that I've had from family and friends is amazing," said Nina. "But the other side of it is that, unfortunately, it's not the nicest topic to talk about and people are uncomfortable."
She continued: "Having Liam and Grace was the best thing that ever happened to me so it's very hard to understand how people can't acknowledge that."
She offered some practical advice when dealing with grief and what she would have liked people to do. As it turns out, it's very simple. Just acknowledge it, don't ignore it.
"We're afraid of people getting upset or crying but the worst thing that's ever happened to me was Liam and Grace dying. If I get upset, that's why I'm upset, it's not because you mentioned their names. If you mention their names, more than likely, I'll smile."
At 7pm on October 15th, buildings across the country will light up in blue and pink to acknowledge and celebrate all the babies that have gone too soon. So far, 34 buildings in Ireland have committed to the day of remembrance and the idea is to keep the light going.
For more information, visit Nina's blog The Warrior and the Princess.