It was 1993. Michael D Higgins was Minister for the Arts, Culture and the Gaeltacht. He did an in-depth interview with Joe Jackson that turned out to be highly controversial.

They discussed in a heady, or heated or humorous manner subjects such as cultural and Third World politics, Bob Dylan, drugs, Eamon Dunphy, and Gerry Adams.

‘My abiding memory of the interview, " says Jackson, "is of how formidable, ferocious and funny Michael D. Higgins could be when defending himself against his critics such as Adams and Dunphy, and a hilarious exchange we had, punctuated by pauses, when I asked if he had ever smoked dope!"

In his RTÉ Radio 1 series The Joe Jackson Tapes Revisited, celebrated journalist Jackson revisits some of the noteworthy encounters of his more than 1,400 celebrity interviews conducted over a thirty-year career. In the coming weeks, you can hear memorable chats with the likes of Glen Campbell, Charlie McCreevey, Eartha Kitt, Leonard Cohen and Fr. Brian Darcy

The Joe Jackson Tapes Revisited: Michael D Higgins, January 21st at 6 pm, RTE Radio 1