A motion will be presented at Annual Camogie Congress in October calling for the "facilitation" of dual players.

The proposal, drafted by Cuala camogie and passed at Dublin board level, was defeated at the Ladies Gaelic Football Association Congress earlier this year.

The feedback from that meeting was that the word ‘facilitate’ would create havoc for fixture makers who are directed by an organisation’s own rulebook and code.

"And that’s the issue," says Cuala adult camogie coach Donal Murphy.

"We need, at the very least, a starting point of recognition for the dual player in the two rule books in order to make any progress.

"At the moment the two organisations can sort of hide behind the rule books as there’s no recognition of the dual player there."

Murphy says he wasn’t shocked the Cuala’s motion didn’t get through at the LGFA Congress.

There is not much expectation that the motion will get through the upcoming Camogie Congress either.

"Certainly, there was disappointment, but we were not surprised," he said of the motion’s initial defeat.

"From a coaching point of view then, going forward, it’s difficult, logistically, to plan for fixtures.

"But the real challenge is for the players. They are constantly in recovery and it’s not fair.

"Ultimately, the full merger of the two bodies within the GAA would be progress," Murphy added. "Or for the fixture schedulers within the two female organisations to merge - that would be positive too."

Last Saturday, the Cahir Ladies footballers, inspired by county star Aisling Molony, won the Tipperary senior ladies football final after extra-time.

A day later they were due to play the Tipp junior camogie final but - with 14 dual players on both teams - and no postponement forthcoming they forfeited that decider on player welfare grounds.

In recent years, such fixture clashes have caused many problems in the two codes right across the country.

Last September, Cuala withdrew its adult camogie team from a championship game because nine of their players were playing an intermediate football final the next day.

On the back of that the club then drafted that motion to both the Camogie and Ladies Football Congresses - calling for help to ‘facilitate’ the dual player.

In an ideal world, Dublin camogie captain and St Jude’s dual star Hannah Hegarty would play both codes at the highest level if she could.

Hegarty captained the Dublin minor ladies’ football and camogie teams in 2015, and currently skippers the county’s senior camogie side.

The Dublin-based teacher says that playing both sports have given her best friends for life but adds that the codes must play their fixtures on alternate weeks to alleviate the huge pressure on dual players.

And Hegarty also feels that better interaction between fixture makers is needed.

"I started like most young players in the club academy, doing both at training – camogie for the first hour and football for the second.

"I loved it growing up. Half our team until we hit 15 were dual players. We were a good group of friends playing together and I would say that I made best friends for life.

"But there were big moments of stress too," she says. "Having to play two finals on the same day, two on the same weekend, or one final on a Tuesday and one on a Wednesday.

"It’s fine when you are young, when you are between 12 and 15 and you are actually happy to have two games in a week.

"But you get to senior level and it asks a lot of your body. It’s doable up to minor but after that I’m not sure. Mentally, too, it’s hard to give your full focus to one code and then switch immediately next day - it’s very tough in that regard."

Hegarty doubts if a dual career is manageable even at club level anymore, specifically in Dublin anyway where the structures are not conducive to it.

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"If both teams are at senior level club, I don’t know if it can be done.

"Here in Dublin it’s camogie on Tuesdays and football on Wednesdays so you couldn’t really be playing two Division One standard games within 24 hours of each other.

"We would need to do what happens in the men’s game - play on alternate weeks. The uptake would be much better then, I would feel."

To help dual players and avoid high profile fixture clashes, Hegarty would like to see better communication between all parties.

"I understand that maybe they will not come under the one umbrella," she says,

"That has been the talk over the last 10 years but maybe it’s more of a long-term goal.

"So, for the shorter term, I would like to see better communication between the respective county boards and the various fixture departments, maybe a bit more talking so that games are not scheduled within 24 hours of each other.

"Maybe then you could look at playing both."

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