Where once they were like brothers, now there is silence.
That's where the relationship between Davy Fitzgerald and Brian Lohan currently stands. It's hard to believe that they were part of a solid spine, namely goalkeeper and full-back on a Clare team that shaped hurling in the 1990s.
Things started to go sour in 2014 when an unfancied LIT side, managed by Fitzgerald defeated the Lohan-managed UL in the Fitzgibbon Cup. A year later, Lohan questioned Fitzgerald's management of the Clare seniors, feeling they had lost ground after their 2013 All-Ireland triumph. And then came remarks in Fitzy's autobiography.
Today, both men are in the thick of the management game, with Fitzgerald still in charge of Wexford, while Lohan is at the helm in his native county.
Speaking on The Sunday Game, Fitzgerald hailed his former team-mate as a player and wished Clare well going forward, but also gave no indication that the pair will be on speaking terms soon.
"Make no mistake about it, Brian was one of the best full-backs I've ever seen. We had a unique friendship," said the Sixmilebridge native.
"Going forward with Clare, I honestly want to see Brian doing well, 100%. We'll come across each other on the sideline and there might be no talk, but still I'd like to see him do well.
"I got hurt at the start from a bit of criticism and probably Brian got hurt that I said stuff in my book. Maybe we should be big enough to forget about it and move on, there are a lot more important things in life.
"Having dealt with Brian professionally, he's a good guy. If we don't talk, we don't talk, but I honestly wish him and the boys all the best."