Ireland's Team Selection v England

by Brendan Cole

Declan Kidney - stick or twist?Should Declan Kidney stick or twist for Saturday's match against England?

Ireland's head coach can congratulate himself on the fact that there are really only two positions up for discussion this time around – with both revolving around the half-back area.

Elsewhere, he has gotten in right. Hooker is tied down thanks to Jerry Flannery’s superb throwing in at the lineout – with Rory Best way off the standard required out of touch so far – while number eight and blindside flanker are similarly firmly in the grip of in-form young guns Jamie Heaslip and Stephen Ferris despite the return to full fitness of Denis Leamy.

Some would also say that Keith Earls should be seen as a challenger to Tommy Bowe in the XV or Geordan Murphy on the bench but Bowe is having the best period of his Ireland career.

That said, Kidney’s decision to exclude Malcolm O’Kelly after having him on the bench for two matches indicates that changes can be made swiftly and the selection at lock will be a very interesting insight into the coaching thought process.

A surprise pick is not out of the question.

Looking towards the heart of the team, the major problem is perceived to be scrum-half, out-half and inside centre.

How accurate is that? Well, the first issue is that as at the World Cup Ronan O’Gara appeared to struggle to handle the blitz defence against Italy. This time, with a slight re-jig of the gameplan, Ireland eventually figured out a way to handle it – and bashed their way to victory through the pack.

Opposition Coaches May Spot Weakness Against Press Defence......

Peter StringerEven still, we have to assume that opposition coaches will pick up on the press/blitz as a way to get at Ireland. As there is no real alternative to O’Gara at out-half, and aside from getting the gameplan right, the solution will have to be found in the positions around him – 9 and 12.

On the gameplan front, a simple option would be to have O’Gara stand a little deeper, kick the ball more often and assume – most likely correctly – that England will not be able to hold onto the ball for long enough to make Ireland pay for giving the ball away. As a short term fix it could work, though against Wales, the issue of getting the ball back would become a live one.

The next option is to give O’Gara a little more space and time by putting Peter Stringer in at scrum-half.

As an aside, for those watching closely it is notable that Stringer has actually improved his rucking and tackling game both technically and in terms of decision making around the breakdown – one of the chief reasons O’Leary passed him out in the first place. He also has a very good kicking game these days and when you add to that that the fact that his passing is still a class apart when the presentation is good (in my book anyway), and you have a strong case for him. However, Ireland must also retain a basic level of strong athletic tacklers in the team and O'Leary definitely has the edge there, though we haven't really seen it so far in this tournament.

But the inside-centre must also play a role in defusing a press or blitz.

There are some who might argue that Brian O’Driscoll should take on the 12 role if not the 12 jersey but with the captain appearing to relish the wider channel, that is unlikely to happen now. If anything, O’Driscoll has been more inclined to take himself over to the wing than towards the inside in this year’s tournament. Overall, keeping Ireland’s best back in his best position is, at this stage, a no brainer.

Gordon D’Arcy is the next name to look at. Ireland’s plan at RWC 2007 was to use D’Arcy’s carrying ability to make easy yards off short runs but instead they ended up giving opposition defences time to re-organise, principally due to the fact that D’Arcy lacks the bulk to make yards quickly.  

D'Arcy and O'Driscoll - complementary as a pair?

Gordon D'Arcy and Brian O'DriscollBringing in Gordon D’Arcy is the next suggestion but it is one surrounded by doubts. Removing the rose tinted spectacles, the fact remains that as a pair, O’Driscoll and D’Arcy frustrated more often than they fizzed. Both are class players but in terms of how they play in attack, they are quite similar. D’Arcy runs slightly better, O’Driscoll passes and offloads slightly better and in other facets of the game, O’Driscoll is superior.

In the past, Ireland have been inclined to use D’Arcy’s to make the same play – a charge off a short run – over and over. For a variety of reasons, it didn’t work and it proved a particular weak strategy against the souped up RWC 2007 blitz defences. It is likely that under Kidney, Ireland would use D’Arcy differently and like other Leinster players, he might suddenly begin to prosper, but even so, it is legitimate to question his suitability for such a key creative role.

Some players exude possibility when they get on the ball, others are all about end product. Paddy Wallace, whatever else you say about him, is one of those players for whom the pitch lights up when he is in possession: a creator of uncertainty in opposition minds. That said, he has not been very robust so far and has yet to really show what he can do.

Overall, however, Ireland do appear to play with better flow and structure when they have in Wallace an excellent passer of the ball at 12.

The essential question is this: "which player gives Ireland the best chance of beating a defence that presses up on O’Gara?"

For me, it’s still Wallace, and there is a strong case for Stringer too…….

 


Comments:

I agree

Posted by Mark on February 23, 2009 at 07:57 PM GMT #

Great blog, I tihnk personally its a close call on both situations. So a decent question is what would O'Gara prefer to see in front of him and beside him if he was asked (considering we have no other option at half back at present) Well I think he prefers the ball quick and flat so you would think Stringer but O'Leary gives him defensive protection. Still if we are being possitive about going forward and want to take the game to a inferior side like England then fast quick ball is needed . .dont give their backrow time to slow the play down. So Strings for me there. Now to 12 . .dont think DArcy has played enough games and Wallace does add a different type of situation to our back play. DArcy also comes on and adds something different to our bench. For me its Stringer at 9, Wallace at 12 with DArcy and OLeary both to come off the bench if necessary. Ireland by 12 points .

Posted by Anthony Morrissey on February 23, 2009 at 10:05 PM GMT #

My biggest fear is that O Gara will have another poor game. He is way below form and I would drop him before he costs us a match with his poor kicking, both place kicking and positional.

Posted by ciaran ennis on February 23, 2009 at 10:14 PM GMT #

For me I think that Stringer should get the nod over O’Leary. There were numerous occasions against Italy that O'Leary was presented with good ball from the ruck and it took him too long to set for the pass allowing the Italians to set their defense. Although Ireland's patience paid off in the end it might have been easier if our backs got quicker ball. We won't be gifted 21pts off England and will certainly not get that off Wales, we'll need to create and we'll need quick ball to do so. As for Paddy, I agree we haven't seen the best of him in this 6 nations and I still think he should retain his jersey against England. If he does I won't be surprised if this is the game he shines. Plus how great is it to finally have confidence that the players on the bench can come in and change the game??? Darc I still think you’re a legend…. Ireland 25 - 19 England

Posted by Michael Martin on February 24, 2009 at 02:32 AM GMT #

I agree with your comments regarding stringer, he has come on leaps and bounds this year. I believe his pass for a lot of reasonable Irish backs looking a lot better than they are. I would love to see him unleash the lions or Leinster backs. Wallace does deserve another go. I was sorry to see Malcolm O'Kelly dump so ignominiously from the Irish squad, I cannot see how such a clever man as Kidney could make such a potentially moral damaging move as to Jettison him completely. As to his replacement I though Bob casey had a huge game for the A side - huge being the operative, he is over 20 stone. Imagine bringing him on for the last 20 minutes, foaming at the mouth any Irishman who has played for an English club (I have) would bring a little more to his game for this match (remember Maggs on the eve of English games). Finally I was delighted to see England blaming Kaplan for their yellow card woes (8 in 3 games cannot be the refs fault more likely it is being caught doing stuff they get away with week in week out in the cynical premiership, keep thinking that way lads! Until next week at least.

Posted by Kevin Ryan on February 24, 2009 at 09:49 AM GMT #

I think Jonny Sexton and Bernard Jackman deserve a place on the bench, they-re definitely coming up.

Posted by Fiacre on February 24, 2009 at 10:20 AM GMT #

Why have we totally forgoten about Reddan?

Posted by JohnR on February 24, 2009 at 10:24 AM GMT #

I totally agree about the center situation. Having Paddy Wallace at 12 brings some unpredictability, his kicking ability doesn't hurt either, especially when England are quite limited in the 10-12-13 positions. When it comes to scrum half though it has to be O'Leary. His physicality and running ability is exactly what we need against the English, as I believe if we can keep them guessing they'll cave. Plus I think his tackling will be vital against the likes of Sackey and Armitage. If Flood is picked over Goode then I think it will be even more important as this will give England more attacking options in their backs. Stringer in reserve can really speed up the game then when we need it and turn the screw on their pack with O'Gara punching them way back into their own half. I would guess that the first half will be scrappy with England trying to get at O'Gara, but that our superior pack will grind them down and we'll start to pull away at the start of the second half.

Posted by Phil Harte on February 24, 2009 at 11:29 AM GMT #

Stringer's pass is the best in a green jersey but whatever time you gain with it is lost with his inability to tie up the oppositions backrow. That little seed of doubt in the minds of the backrow is important and O'Leary does offer that. Whoever plays though will not weaken the team though as both are good scrum halfs.

Posted by Colin on February 24, 2009 at 12:23 PM GMT #

I think there is no question as to who should start at 9. O'Leary has performed outstandingly for Munster this season and provides a more solid defensive option with the defensively weak combination of O'Gara and Wallace at 10 and 12. His obvious defensive deficiencies duly noted, I think it is ludacris to even mention dropping O'Gara, who granted may not be playing at his best for Ireland, is still and has been for a long time the lynchpin of this Irish side. I think we should all pray to Jebus, Tom Cruise or whoever will listen that he doesn't get injured.

Posted by Phil Morris on February 24, 2009 at 12:34 PM GMT #

For me if we intend playing running rugby then no doubt it has to be Strings for his speed of pass, O Leary is like he is hatching an egg at times giving opposition time to reset, lets keep this English pack moving all the time. If Strings is in Kidney's plans ahead of Reddan then he needs regular rugby so we would be delighted to see him in the blue of Leinster next year. The No 12 jersey should stay with Wallace as he has not had a fair crack at it with his injuries, we haven't seen what he can do yet and he hasn't done anything wrong in the time is has been on the field, Darc can make a huge impact of the bench. I think we are stronger in every department including the bench and management, Ireland by 20 points with the Leinster lads to the fore again.

Posted by Conor O Carroll on February 24, 2009 at 12:53 PM GMT #

I think your blog is very interesting. I have to agree with most of your comments. I think maybe against england we should keep oleary on because they dont play an all out blitz defence like south africa or wales but more of a two man up press/blitz in midfield, then I'd switch to stringer against wales. Your correct in saying that Darcy hasnt the bulk for 12 but then again either does wallace. I think maybe trying earls in there if we are winning comfortably after 60mins or so on saturday would be a good idea, I may be incorrect when saying this but did i not see him play 13 for munster before to good effect and he is certanly more bulky than either wallace or darcy

Posted by 192.168.24.17 on February 24, 2009 at 12:54 PM GMT #

I agree with Fiacre, Bernard Jackman definitely deserves a place on the bench, he's amazing in the loose

Posted by Luc on February 24, 2009 at 01:16 PM GMT #

This scrum half debate will continue for the next few years but for me it has to be Strings all the way. As a munster fan It always annoys me that stringer is not used more. think back to the summer against both the aussies and the allblacks our backline did nothing for long periods until stringer was introduced and suddenly there was a bit of pace in attack. even last week we were stagnent until stringer came in and suddenly gaps appeared. i will say one thing as another poster mentioned stringer is a great passer when the ball is presented to him with protection but quite often he is left open to the oposition backrow and gets swallowed up. either way its a good thing for the Irish team that we have such good players battling for places bring on saturday.

Posted by Paul Sull on February 24, 2009 at 01:29 PM GMT #

Reddan hasn't been forgotten about. He's playing with the Ireland A's. Unfortunately for Reddan he is playing for a very poor Wasps this season. O'Leary on the other hand has been first choice consistently this season ahead of Stringer for the first time at Munster and is performing brilliantly for a side that is having arguably its best ever season to date being top of the Magners league and also their tough Heineken Cup group. His passing off the back of rucks for them this season has been lightning quick and his defensive and kicking (although wayward sometimes) abilities are far greater than that of any Irish scrum-half in the last 10 years. In terms of Stringer as a second choice I think Kidney has this exactly right. He plays that role for Munster at present and when he comes on he plays better than he had done in the days when he was first string. There no doubt that O'Leary and Stringer are the top two Irish number 9's at present.

Posted by Seamus on February 24, 2009 at 01:40 PM GMT #

I think Kidney has made the right calls. With 20 minutes to go we can unleash Stringer and Darcy. Stringer's pass and Darcy's running abilities will destroy a tiring English defence. As long as we don't get run over in the 10-12 area before that we have more than enough to win by around ten or fifteen points.

Posted by Peter on February 24, 2009 at 02:56 PM GMT #

Ireland XV to face England in the RBS Six Nations at Croke Park on Saturday, 28 February at 5.30pm. Robert Kearney, Tommy Bowe, Brian O'Driscoll (capt), Paddy Wallace, Luke Fitzgerald, Ronan O'Gara, Tomas O'Leary, Marcus Horan, Jerry Flannery, John Hayes, Donncha O'Callaghan, Paul O'Connell, Stephen Ferris, David Wallace, Jamie Heaslip. Replacements: Rory Best, Tom Court, Mick O'Driscoll, Denis Leamy, Peter Stringer, Gordon D'Arcy, Geordan Murphy.

Posted by Brendan Cole on February 24, 2009 at 03:12 PM GMT #

As expected. Overall, there's no obvious bad call.... Hoping for a stormer from Paddy Wallace. On Sexton, Reddan and Jackman, they are working away with the A's but there is an inconsistency issue for Reddan and Sexton. In Jackman's case, some injury trouble has held him back - can't help that Jerry Flannery is throwing in really well and Rory Best is seen as a 'senior player'. On the O'Kelly/Mick O'Driscoll thing, my guess is Kidney wants a player who be lifted easily and catch a restart or lineout late in the game......for some reason, Kidney reckons O'Kelly is no longer that player. Either way, if Paul O'Connell were to go off, we need a serious middle of the lineout jumper to replace him.

Posted by Brendan Cole on February 24, 2009 at 03:18 PM GMT #

So, given the absence of any changes for the third game running, is it safe to assume that the stated aim of developing a squad has been parked for the time being? Looks like it to me. If it gives us a shot of the slam then I'm all for that. But does isn't there a contradiction when one the one hand the message from the camp cautions against thinking that far ahead, and yet the unchanged selection clearly shows that the slam is the one thing on their minds, as opposed to the World Cup, for e.g.?

Posted by David on February 24, 2009 at 04:49 PM GMT #

@David - point taken on development. Although we are strong in the back row, the one player I would have loved to see closer to the squad is Sean O'Brien of Leinster - one of the best young wing-forwards around and, for my money, being held up a bit at Leinster.

Posted by Brendan Cole on February 24, 2009 at 05:21 PM GMT #

Come on little Stringer, make us dream again this afternoon !

Posted by Christelle on February 28, 2009 at 10:51 AM GMT #

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