Selection - Huge Calls For Kidney

by Brendan Cole

After Scotland v Ireland, I think Ireland fans (me included) are learning quite a bit about just how difficult winning is......

More on that later in the week I'm sure - for now, a quick look ahead to tomorrow afternoon's team selection.

The biggest call before kick-off is Declan Kidney’s team selection (the Welsh team selection will obviously also be of huge interest with Warren Gatland having key decisions to make in the back-row, at out-half and in the centre).  

Kidney has at least four big calls to make – three in the first XV and one on the bench.

For Ireland, the first key debate is whether to go for Rory Best of Jerry Flannery at hooker. Best defied the doubters by running a very good lineout against Scotland and also made a very smart contribution to Ireland’s play in the tight. Jerry Flannery has played well in the other three games, however, and is effectively still the man in possession.

This one may boil down to whether the coaches weight Flannery’s throwing in ahead of Best’s more secure carrying and smarter tight work.

In the backs, the decisions are arguably more to do with gameplan and fit than straight form.

Gordon D'ArcyAt inside centre, Paddy Wallace played well in the first three games without making big attacking plays. There was at least one minor slips in defence - for the linebreak that led to Delon Armitage’s try against England. Against Scotland, Gordon D’Arcy threatened slightly more and carried well and often against Scotland. The other factor is the form of Brian O’Driscoll, who appeared to play better alongside Wallace than the more similar D’Arcy. D'Arcy's ability to come in and do well against a tiring defence would also be in favour of him starting from the bench.

Again, it's a desperately tight call.

At scrum-half, leaving aside the try he created, Peter Stringer’s passing had an obvious impact on Ireland’s ability to create go forward ball in midfield. Tomás O’Leary is still effectivelyt he incumbent but may be under pressure to retain the jersey heading into a match which Ireland must approach as positively as possible to win.

The final decision is on the bench – where in the likely absence of the massively unlucky Denis Leamy Ireland need to bring in a player capable of coming in and carrying ball to the high standards set by Stephen Ferris, Jamie Heaslip and David Wallace to date.

Going on previous squads, Shane Jennings and Alan Quinlan are the two main contenders with Quinlan possibly ahead on the basis of his superior ball carrying, big match temperament and Heineken Cup winning experience.

An outside bet would be Sean O’Brien, who carries the ball at least as well as anyone not currently in the Ireland squad and has that priceless knack of always ensuring the ball is recycled when he does take it into contact. Obviously, this fixture may have come just slightly too soon for him, but the Leinster flanker definitely deserves a mention based on his achievements this season.

My calls?

Best, Stringer, Wallace (just - and based mainly on the theory that saving D'Arcy will give us a vital extra gear if we need it in the second half) and Quinlan - though we would lose nothing by having O'Brien in there either.

 


Comments:

Normally I'd agree with Wallace getting another go at centre, but the thoughts of Roberts/Shanklin/Powell attacking that 10-12 channel means I'm more inclined to go for D'Arcy at 12. I think Stringer should start given the blitz defence the Welsh will employ. It would be great to see Sean O Brien in at 7 (Wallace at 8), but he'll more than likely be facing off against Williams at 7, so maybe the more experienced Jennings?

Posted by Brian on March 16, 2009 at 12:11 PM GMT #

Id go, Best, O'Leary, D'arcy with quinlan on bench. o'Leary totally dominated Phillips in the Ospreys v Munster game a few weeks back and has a psychological edge there. Also Brendan, re: your player ratings, "Denis Leamy's ball carrying lacked oomph"...watch the tap and go where he takes 3 men with him before our first penalty.

Posted by Seán on March 16, 2009 at 12:53 PM GMT #

Agree with you on the Best call (hopefully his throwing will remain accurate): Flannery is a good impact sub. I think Reddan should start but, as he is not even being considered, has to be O'Leary - for the same reason Brian wants Stringer. Wales will be up in our face and O'Leary's box kicks are a good counter to that. Stringer's pass is excellent but he allows a blitz defence too much time to gather with the time he takes at the breakdown. That said, the first 20 minutes of the second half in Murrayfield were the best he has played in years. 12 is a tough call but D'Arcy brings something off the bench - unlike Wallace so that might be the call. For the bench, I would drop Mick O'Driscoll. Really have never understood why he is there, as he is not international quality. You could then bring in both Quinlan and Jennings both of whom would offer something. O'Brien is a future star but this is the wrong game for him.

Posted by Zeleneye on March 16, 2009 at 12:54 PM GMT #

At the start of the campaign I did not rate Paddy Wallace. However having watched him closely against England I was surprised how solid a defender he was. Scrum half has to be Stringer - he gives his back line far more time than any others.

Posted by Ed O'Neill on March 16, 2009 at 01:18 PM GMT #

Can't understand the debate re Best and Flannery. Flannery is by far a superior player at no.2 and should be in the hooker berth for the Wales game. D'arcy either cannot or refuses to pass the ball and was detrimental to Ireland's back play on saturday. Wallace is not a great 12 but he is a better option. Cannot understand why the last blogger would drop Mick O'Driscoll from a bench when he has not been on the park this season. Micko is certainly international class and a good back up to the two O's at lock. Quinlan is the obvious choice to sit on the bench for the unfortunate Leamy. Stringer for scrum half.

Posted by Thomas on March 16, 2009 at 01:43 PM GMT #

For defense alone D'Arcy would have to start. Hard call at scrum half but Gatland would prefer to see O'Leary as he overcooks his box kicks giving Williams and Byrne loads of time to run back at us. Flannery back at hooker, Best hit his targets against a very poor Scotish lineout. The Welsh will be far superior and able to pick him off. Would bring in Jennings on the bench as Quinlan gives away too many penalties. Would love to see Bob Casey in instead of O'Driscoll and maybe even O'Callaghan who has been very quiet in this 6 nations. Key to winning this game will be discipline in not giving away the ball with sloppy kicks and silly penalties.

Posted by Kieran on March 16, 2009 at 01:44 PM GMT #

It would be madness not to pick Jackie Kyle - we need experience!

Posted by Eamon on March 16, 2009 at 01:48 PM GMT #

Anyone else a bit baffled by Stringers Man of the Match award? I mean he played well but Ireland didn't create anymore chances than previous games. His break was the only one he tried in his otherwise predictable play. His box kicking wasn't great either. No height on the ball when he got them off and charged down way too often for my liking. If the scrum half is going to take the pressure off O Gara by box kicking surely its better to have the superior quality of O'Leary in that area?

Posted by Seamus on March 16, 2009 at 02:48 PM GMT #

Anyone else a bit baffled by Stringers Man of the Match award? I mean he played well but Ireland didn't create anymore chances than previous games. His break was the only one he tried in his otherwise predictable play. His box kicking wasn't great either. No height on the ball when he got them off and charged down way too often for my liking. If the scrum half is going to take the pressure off O Gara by box kicking surely its better to have the superior quality of O'Leary in that area?

Posted by Seamus on March 16, 2009 at 03:07 PM GMT #

Brendan, my call would be Best for his general play, Strings for his 'quicker' pass and Wallace, as i think at the moment Darcy is more affective coming off the bench. I also agree with Zeleneye drop Mick O Driscoll and bring in both Jennings and Quinlan, as Quinlan can cover the second row. Wales have a big physically back unit do you think there is a call to have Shaggy on the bench? for his size.

Posted by Conor O Carroll on March 16, 2009 at 04:42 PM GMT #

Brendan. Thanks for the deep analysis of all the games to date. I have watched all the games and read all the articles on this web site. Ireland have to attack with pace and intensity so ball from Stringer will be crucial.Darcy has to start at 12 as Wales will attack the inside close to O GARA. Bowe's wing also will be attacked as he is showing cracks and poor decision making.His kicking game is suspect. Quinlan for sure to cover and Flannery as we know has a better throw so why not start with confidence as our Lineout will need to be used for attack etc This is NOT Scotland with all respect. It is Wales and Cardiff so stop fooling around and put your best Rugby players on the Field.Darcy , Flannery and Stringer to start and someone needs to work with BOWE !!! I am sure Kidney has spotted this weakness although I am sure the Welsh have.

Posted by Gerry Slattery CANADA on March 16, 2009 at 06:19 PM GMT #

I would have to go for Quinlan as a replacement for Leamy.Its not that Jennings wouldnt do a good job but I just feel that Quinlan could make a bigger impact coming off the bench, so long as he stays on the right side of the ref. His agressiveness and experience from two Heineken cup finals would be a huge asset to Ireland, even just in the build up and in the dessing room at half time, and he'd probably find it easier to bond with the Munster dominated pack.

Posted by Aisling on March 16, 2009 at 06:24 PM GMT #

I would play, Best, D'Arcy, Stringer. I would also bring in Earls and Reddan on the bench. O'Leary has not played well. Was not good when he came in. Reddan has pass and break and would be a good impact player. Earls would better than Murphy. Can please Centre, Wing and Fullback.

Posted by Joe on March 16, 2009 at 06:36 PM GMT #

I would have stringer in at scrum half, and would give wallace and d'arcy a half each. D'arcy being an impact sub like he did against France. Flannery/Best is a tough call, Best is a better ball carryier and if he can nail his lineouts maybe he's the man. I would also agree with Joe above, would have earls instead of Murphy on the bench as our secret weapon.

Posted by Ian on March 16, 2009 at 07:35 PM GMT #

Its funny how people think O leary for box kicks,(I was thinking he was playing against us). look at what that done for us in the first 20 min against Eng, O Learys first box kick and Irl didn't see the ball for the next 20 minuets, Why Why kick the ball away especally with the quality of backs Irl have, To take the presure off O'Gara?? but how else is Darcy, O'Dris,Carney Bowe, going to get a run SEND IT OUT every time they will know what to do with it.Agree O'leary is stronger but Christ he is slow.

Posted by Bskinti on March 17, 2009 at 01:55 AM GMT #

Flannery, Stringer, Wallace for the team and Quinlan for the bench. As for the people calling for Mickos exclusion i could not disagree more. He can also cover the back row and is a great option for second row if we lose donnacha or paul, he is a fantastic asset to have in the squad!

Posted by Jim Hook on March 17, 2009 at 02:23 AM GMT #

A lot of really tough calls in fairness. I genuinely think there is nothing between Best and Flannery and would not envy Kidney having to make that decision. In light of his improved defence (a huge surprise to me) I would have to pick Wallace. On his day he can unlock a defence as well as anyone and I think we need that kind of player to put the likes of O'Driscoll and our back 3 in space. D'arcy can be very impactful off the bench but too often in the last 2 years has sought out defenders rather than gaps for me. A great option to have on the bench though. At scrum half I have to go for O'Leary. Regardless of Stringer's performance, regardless of O'Leary's box kicking (whether you think its good or bad), for me one of the biggest factors is MIke Phillips. His size and speed are potent weapons and when Wales get in behind there are few better at finishing you off. O'Leary's physicality and speed come into play as a result and it is these reasons for which I think he should be picked. Selections aside,what a game we have to look forward to - cmon Ireland!

Posted by Michael on March 17, 2009 at 07:59 AM GMT #

Flannery every time. Strings and Wallace would inspire me and - I hope, the boys in green...

Posted by Sorcha on March 17, 2009 at 09:09 AM GMT #

Agree with zeleneye on the Reddan call. The 2 and 12 choices are close calls but depend on what gameplan we want to use. If you were to simply choose between all of them at the top of their game, you would choose D'Arcy and Flannery. Life is not that simple though. Either way, its good to have real dilemmas finally. I also agree 100% with zeleneye on Mick O'Driscoll. There are at least four players I would put on the bench before him - particularly if we are building towards a world cup. MOD has a lot of heart but is not an international player. Quinlan and Jennings on the bench would give you real options to change things around, MOD does not. I can only assume he is in there because he is a positive pscychological influence.

Posted by Sully O'edivan on March 17, 2009 at 12:51 PM GMT #

Selection issues aside im not at all convinced that the way to play Wales is through the backs. To be fair Wales have a major advantage in this area and favour open and broken play. Ireland should play like they had done til recently and go through the forwards. Build up the phases through rucks and then if the opportunity presents itself to then use the backs. Irelands forwards have been excellent throughout this competition and have not got the recognition for it and will certainly dominate the Welsh pack.

Posted by Seamus on March 17, 2009 at 01:19 PM GMT #

the selection of both oleary and d'arcy hints towards a more conservative tight gameplan. o learys clear advantage over stringer is his size and ability to mix it with the forwards while with darcy at inside centre we are rarely going to see the ball outside the 12 channel. in my opinion wales are ther for the taking and starting stringer and wallace would had made for a quicker and more fluid gameplan allowing ireland to raise the tempo from the off and blow wales out of the water early on. instead prepare for a tight trepid performance full of physicality but little craft. however i believe firmly that we will succeed so long as rog brings his kicking boots

Posted by ronan on March 17, 2009 at 02:19 PM GMT #

What 6 Natioins is that Kieran watching? "O'Callaghan has been quiet". Clearly no grasp of the role O'Callaghan has played, he's been immense. Torn on Stringer v O'Leary. Do you go the stronger, more physical O'Leary to counter the abrasive Phillips or the quicker, snappier Stringer to whip ball away from the sniping Williams? I'd probably go Stringer as he is more solid; O'Leary still has too many mistakes. Would go Flannery as the Welsh pack including front row are very mobile and Flannery will get around the pitch more. Tough lines on Best who did very well with his opportunity on the weekend. I would also go Wallace having seen the Welsh selection. Would also have Quinlan and Jennings instead of O'Driscoll on the bench giving plenty of options in the event we need to really chase the game.

Posted by Clohessy Abroad on March 17, 2009 at 02:20 PM GMT #

Well Seamus, it certainly looks like that is what we intend to do based on the selection. The most interesting call of all is Henson to start for Wales. Should be fascinating. Let hope our lads stand up and our counted because, if they do, it is within their potential.

Posted by Zeleneye on March 17, 2009 at 03:11 PM GMT #

if selecting jackie kyle would we also consider Ronnie delaney?

Posted by US fan on March 17, 2009 at 04:46 PM GMT #

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