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Elaine Byrne

What's the difference between Ireland and Iceland? I set off with Prime Time last week to find out why the two countries' reactions to the economic crisis have been so vastly different.

There are stunning parallels in recent Irish and Icelandic history. We've both had an economic busts caused by a banking collapse which was, in turn, the result of a complete lack of governmental or regulatory oversight. Yet the differences between how each society has reacted to the events is perhaps more interesting.

In Iceland the People surrounded parliament banging pots and pans and demanded the government step down. The politicians walked out and a citizen's assembly was formed. 1000 individuals were picked at random and asked to play their play in Iceland's revival. A deep and wide-ranging inquiry into the banking collapse was established with various senior bankers called to give evidence. Several have been prosecuted. The government has changed, with the new prime minister admitting there have been failings of governance and the political classes. The people have demanded a dedication to political transparency.

Irish citizens, in contrast, have yet to take to the streets in large numbers, despite the appearance of outrage against the introduction of NAMA. The parties in power during the collapse are still in place. Apathy, it seems, abounds. The main part of the banking inquiry has yet to begin. There has not been a single be a prosecution against a senior figure in the banking sector.

During the trip I attempted to learn why there is such contrast between the reactions, despite the similarities in what occurred. Do we trust our Government more than the Icelanders did? Is that why people have yet to protest in large numbers? Or is it due to a cultural difference stretching back generations?

A lot was learned on the trip but I'm interested in other people's answers to the above questions. Your questions and comments can be posted below, I'll pop in and out over the next day or so to respond. Thanks in advance.



Comments:

There is quite clearly a cultural difference between the Irish and the rest of the world. Our passive acceptance of what has been perpetrated on us as a nation is simply mind numbing. We have a so called leader who was at the heart of the system during the so called celtic tiger years and he was either inept or complicite and based on his failings and dismal performance as taoiseach I believe as do so may others that he is clearly inept and unable to properly plan or lead us out of this mess !

Posted by Daragh Hughes on May 11, 2010 at 10:36 PM IST #

Guys, awesome saga (story) delighted we could take part. It was informitave, insiteful and honest. I think Ireland needs to get its answers as well, no point whatsoever in having a banking inquirey and no names named . . whats the point if the public dont get their answers?

Posted by Marc Coleman on May 11, 2010 at 11:55 PM IST #

The althingi report in Iceland set about getting to the root cause and naming names which is only right. That could never or would never be allowed to happen in this country just look at the millions we have wasted on tribunials and yet we still have Ahern blocking the Mahon tribunial from publishing its report through the courts at tax payers expense.We dont need to waste any more money on enquiries we need constitutional change that will ensure future accountability. I mean how can Brian Cowen who as minister for Finace met the regulator only twice be allowed to continue as the unelected Taoiseach of this country ! Ps as above good informative programme

Posted by Bertie Clowen on May 12, 2010 at 01:08 PM IST #

Hi Marc, hope the tayto went down well! Iceland is a beautiful country and Matt Naughton did a great job on camera getting some amazing shots. Meeting Icelanders, I genuinely got this sense that they had gone through a cathartic process of dealing with the political and financial failures in their country. Instead of just saying let’s move forward, the protests, elections, consultative democracy and banking inquiry was a process which allowed them to actually move forward. @Declan That’s maybe the difference then between Iceland and Ireland, the passive acceptance.

Posted by Elaine Byrne on May 12, 2010 at 03:14 PM IST #

We need to protest Irish-style: be funny, intelligent and creative. I propose a BUBBLE protest next Tuesday. It would serve several purposes: 1. highlight the bubbles that were inflated (tech, property, speculation using CFDs)by bad government policies 2. show the absolute absurdity of the government's response to our perfect storm of political, economic, religious, social, intellectual and artistic crises 3. create an interesting visual for local and international media 4. serve as a positive focus for protesters 5. make everyone feel happy and empowered. So,why not BYOB - bring your own bubbles and blow away the gloom next tuesday! Join the Bubble Brigade during the protest next Tuesday. I hope i'm not there alone.

Posted by Margaret E. Ward on May 12, 2010 at 04:59 PM IST #

People in Ireland are always wondering why aren't we out protesting like what the people of Iceland have done. Its a simple question the way I see it is.Its to do with cultural difference. You see people from the Scandinavian countries take things real serious when it comes to running a country. So when things go wrong they act real fast and don't take any kind of crap. I know this as I've been a Finland many times, and the Finnish are similar in cultural and thinking as the Icelandic's. When things go wrong they really know how to act fast on it. Where's here I find the Irish just are to busy doing other things. Then going out protesting and that's a wrong idea to be having it this stage.

Posted by Aisling Maguire on May 12, 2010 at 08:26 PM IST #

Living in Scandinavia one begins to appreciate that while there are certain similarities with Ireland there are also fundamental differences. In the context of the report on the Icelandic crisis it is clear that while they like Ireland got caught up in the excesses of the past decade they are prepared to take a hard look at themselves and hold individuals accountable as part of a process of rebuilding the trust of society in the political and economic system. The difference in Ireland is that the focus tends to quickly shift towards "moving on" for fear that we might have to expose ourselves to the rigor of a transparent investigation. We do not hold ourselves accountable as a society or as individuals. While Iceland will be able to achieve closure albeit at a very high price, Ireland will live with a very divisive legacy that will effect Irish society long after we have finished paying the bill. I am certain that Ireland will "move on" and will recover economically in time. However the damage to society may never be repaired.

Posted by Dominic Lennon on May 12, 2010 at 09:34 PM IST #

I don't think it matters if names are mentioned as they will all be painted with the same brush and will not get into power again.

Posted by Kevin Harte on May 14, 2010 at 03:30 AM IST #

Elaine, Can you tell us how the Icelandic financial services sector is doing after Icelandic citizens rejected, in a referendum, their government's plan to repay the international bondholders? As our Government has made it the cornerstone of its financial policy to recompense international bondholders for their investments in failed Irish financial institutions, how did little Iceland get away with it? John Williams, Kilkee

Posted by John Williams on May 14, 2010 at 09:25 PM IST #

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