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Pro Evolution 2010 vs FIFA 10

by Brendan Cole

Both the Pro Evolution and FIFA series have new versions due for release in October: which one should get your Euro?

A little background: I have been an ISS/Pro Evo fan from day one, have owned around half the versions released to date and played all of them. And I’ve gotten rather good at it too. For me (and most people) ISS Pro Evolution 6 - the one with Adriano on the front - was about as close to the perfect football game as seemed humanly possible at the time.

Like many Pro Evolution fans, I have also been hearing for quite some time that the once clunky and dull FIFA has improved dramatically over the last two to three years.

Like many Pro Evolution fans, I have also been feeling for some time that this once all conquering title is on the decline. I found the most recent version (Pro Evolution Soccer 2009) emphasised defence too much and tended to favour formulaic play; a samey ‘move the defence from side to side until there is space, and then shoot’ approach.

Far too similar to basketball without the jumping up and down for my liking.

In my opinion, this trend has not been reversed by the upcoming Pro Evolution Soccer 2010, which previewed at Gamescon.

Pro Evolution: Attacking Play Has Become A Chore

Pro Evo 10In fact, in the new version the attacking play seems harder than ever. Even if you do manage to get the ball into the box – no mean feat - you will more than likely be surrounded by up five or six defenders. Mickey Harte would be proud - every team defends with the intensity of Tyrone c.2003-2005. But it doesn’t make for good football.

Are there any lazy or incompetent defenders out there? Not really in Pro Evo land...

The lack of space - both teams compress themselves into their half of the pitch in defence - and the overlarge player sprites add up to a defensive snooze. Seasoned Pro Evolution players will be disappointed to learn that the predictability issue the game has not been dealt with. It is far too easy to know what will happen next.

I played against a German chap who had also clearly spent many years nurturing his ISS/Pro Evo skills and the net result was that neither of us could score over three five minute halves (I had to go, but I reckon I woulda had the beating of him if I’d stayed on).

Pretty much straight after trying Pro Evolution, I went onto FIFA and it was impossible to not feel instantly that it is the superior game.

It’s enjoyable, engaging and varied. A thrill instead of an over-congested borefest. In both attack and defence it feels fair but not too predictable and there is enough space for creativity. Passing is superior and, as in the real game you see on the TV, the midfield battle is the decisive area.

A further step in the right direction in FIFA 10 is that it does away with the idea of the player having ‘control’ of the ball at any stage - the ball is never ‘stuck’ to your player as such - making it much more realistic and exciting. The 360 degree ball control - meaning your player can dribble in any direction rather than just go in eight - is another major change from the last version.

Tactically, it is streets ahead with holding midfielders genuinely contributing to running the game. Contrast that to Pro Evo, in which any backwards pass is ‘frowned upon’ and any pass from midfield to defence is almost guaranteed to be punished with an interception.

Maybe Pro Evolution ennui has set in for me and newcomers to the game will still find it enjoyable... but my recommendation for anyone buying from the latest round of football games is to take a chance on FIFA.

FIFA 10 is due for release on 2 October.
Pro Evo 2010 is due for release on 22 October.


 
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Comments:

Actually, I think you've got it all wrong! Pes2008 and 2009 were very attacking games, so much so that most matches ended with at least 5 goals and most fans were ready to crucify Seebass for making defenders into retards. Pro Evo 2010 also has 360 control btw.

Posted by Mohamed S. on September 03, 2009 at 11:48 PM BST #

I agree 100% fifa 10 rocks.

Posted by cr7. on September 04, 2009 at 03:48 AM BST #

As I have been in favor of the PRO EVO series over the years im affraid FIFA will be getting my money this year, PRO EVO 6 was withuot doubt the best of the lot but since the PS3 came out they havent matched it, I still bought PE 2008 and 2009 but last year I had enough and traded them in for FIFA 09 which was a great move, its a good footie game and with all the changes to this year it will only be better, sorry PRO EVO but you are falling way behind..

Posted by Kenny on September 04, 2009 at 07:27 AM BST #

Who are you playing against Mohamed!? The players are fairly thick in Pro Evo but I think the issue is the packing of the halves. Against other human players, defence is far too easy I think.

Posted by Brendan Cole on September 04, 2009 at 09:55 AM BST #

It's always been FIFA for me. The games got a bit dull around the 2003-2006, but have started to pick up again ever since. PES always feels more like an arcade version, where as FIFA is always the realistic version. For a while I think people enjoyed this new speedy style from PES, but it's starting to turn back to FIFA once again as the gameplay improves.

Posted by David on September 04, 2009 at 10:00 AM BST #

Mohamed I thought the whole point of a a good footie game was to have it as realistic as possible, scoring 5 goals in every game isnt im affraid.

Posted by Kenny on September 04, 2009 at 10:05 AM BST #

Pro evoloution reminds me of a game that you stick 2 pound into a machine to play in an Arcade. Fifa is miles ahead of pro evo in my opinion and as well if you play online the servers are horrible on pro evo they are not great on fifa either the odd disconnect and drop out but much better than pro evos

Posted by David Horace on September 04, 2009 at 10:06 AM BST #

i was a big pro evo fan from years back to the the first game on ps1.then for the ps2 and xbox360.i like to play live games,but the lastet pro evo will not work online due to lagging problems with its online server,apart from that i know some people have something against fifa,but it has improved alot.i bought fifa 94 98 99 2000(not great)stayed with pro evo!then got fifa 08 & 09 and its improving,very realistic and and the end of the day more fun.

Posted by paul on September 04, 2009 at 10:16 AM BST #

FIFAs problem has always been is that its too easy. I find that with Pro Evo its more challenging. Without out playing it yet I can tell with Pro evo that you'll have to get the ball out wide and stretch the defense in order to create chances, kinda like a real match

Posted by Theken on September 04, 2009 at 10:44 AM BST #

EA are claiming to have improved AI - you'll have players throwing themselves in front of the ball to deflect shots and that sort of thing.....could make a difference.

Posted by Brendan Cole on September 04, 2009 at 11:00 AM BST #

@Brendan - did you manage to have a look at custom set pieces in FIFA 10? Ive seen a few videos of it and it looks really impressive. No more boring corners/free kicks. Also i think PES hasnt been the same since the PS2. FIFA 08 was a breakthrough game for EA, 09 built upon that with improvements and refinements and now FIFA 10 will hopefully build upon that even more.

Posted by Paul Mc on September 04, 2009 at 12:00 PM BST #

Paul - Fraid not....looks excellent though. Imagine it's a bit like the 'hot routes' in Madden - I could actually see it making set pieces a little too easy if they are not careful......

Posted by Brendan Cole on September 04, 2009 at 12:25 PM BST #

From what ive read about the new PES it looks like Konami has listened to what fans where saying about the previous title and has improved on a lot of the areas that we weak in the last 2 or 3 titles. Graphics, AI, master league and the overall pace of the game. Authenticity was never PES's strong point (the subtly exaggerated ball physics and player speed). What it does and always has created is a game that's unquestionably the more fun of the two big football titles. With positive reviews coming from a lot of gaming sites, some stating this is one of the strongest titles in many many years, i cannot wait to get my hands on it. "If football is our religion, pray at the altar!"

Posted by Trevor O Brien on September 04, 2009 at 01:34 PM BST #

like yourself brendan, was a big fan of Pro evo, the (extremely rare) thrill of getting a free kick into the back of the net was one of my biggest things as a gamer, but the quality of pro evo has decreased dramatically and when coupled with the appalling online play since 06, I have migrated to FIFA which has improved dramatically, hopefully fifa will have gotten rid of the stupid goals form kick off situation. As an aside while mentioning disappointment in sequels, I have to say that wolfenstein has been one of the biggest letdowns ever. It's appalling TBH

Posted by ian on September 04, 2009 at 01:35 PM BST #

Trevor, I'd say have a go on it first. As I said, I'm a long time PES player and to me none of the problems I had with the gameplay in other versions have been improved: the German chap I played against said umprompted (quote): 'FIFA is better'.). Free kicks have never been my strong suit, but I did chip (not shoot) one straight in once.....

Posted by Brendan Cole on September 04, 2009 at 02:11 PM BST #

Fifa 08 & 09 really showed up how poor the recent PES games have been alright, and then PES went and tried imitating Fifa in 2009, which they should never have done. It's a shame Libero Grande isn't around anymore, it was much more fun than Be A Pro / Be A Legend modes, bring it back!!! Can't wait to take the newly promoted Dundalk all the way to Champions League glory in Fifa 10 either. Fifa 09 though, continues to surprise me time after time, and this is almost a year after it's release, you can play the game so many different ways, it's brill. One problem though - in the PS2 version of Fifa 09, you can move your wall & goalkeeper when defending free kicks, but in the 360 version, you cannot. WHY IS THIS??? FIX IT!!! I love the sound of customisable set pieces though... And they should bring back the big yellow arrow from the old Fifas for free kicks!

Posted by Willy on September 04, 2009 at 02:45 PM BST #

FIFA 10 by far the choice for me. I was huge PES fan till about 3 years ago when next gen console came along. Fifa started copying the PES of old and with its better graphics and GUI it was as good as PES, then the fact that PES '08 and '09 were MUCK pushed me into the FIFA crowd for fifa 08 and then 09, which I thought were brilliant. some offside and card bugs asside they were 10/10. PES just isnt what it was and anyone who stays in the PES camp is just living in the past and not getting the best footy game on the market and missing out on alot of fun.

Posted by Heath Ledger on September 04, 2009 at 05:34 PM BST #

Brendan if you hang around ANY Pro Evo message board and ask the fans what they thought of the Defense in 2008 and 2009 they'll keep saying the same thing: "defense is retarded" The fact that players like Messi and Ronaldo can dribble past 6 players with ease in previous games is ridiculous. You are literally the first person on the internet I have ever seen that claims Pro Evo 2008 and 2009 are too defensive. Go check out some Pro Evo website like PESFan and PESgaming and see what they say about the defense.

Posted by Mohamed S. on September 04, 2009 at 08:27 PM BST #

Defence should always be about 5% easier than attacking. Attacking should be a mix of good passing skills and individual skill. Pro Evo does that.

Posted by Caniggia on September 04, 2009 at 09:13 PM BST #

Since PES went next-gen, my beloved series has been but a shadow of itself.

Posted by Doraimon on September 05, 2009 at 05:58 AM BST #

Fifa has beat PES in all Ps3 versions but in PS2 there was no challenge PES was the best ^_^

Posted by Luis Piñon on September 05, 2009 at 07:01 AM BST #

FIFA10 ! PES has been going backwards . . . Now fifa is better than pes

Posted by cartoon on September 05, 2009 at 11:59 AM BST #

I think its too early to say conclusively FIFA 10 is better than PES 2010. FIFA is way ahead in development, Konami still have some work to do and iron out problems so i'm confident if the problems are fixed PES will regain its crown

Posted by John on September 05, 2009 at 12:57 PM BST #

pes is moving back like a cheata (fast), and fifa is moving forward like a turtle (slowly), and the turtle (fifa) has gone past the cheata (PES) FIFA IS SIMPLY BETTER

Posted by DMAN on September 05, 2009 at 06:21 PM BST #

One thing that always bugged me about pro was the lack of licences with things like kits,players etc,anyone know if there has been any improvement with the new game?

Posted by Old skool pro evo fan on September 05, 2009 at 08:46 PM BST #

Similar to a lot of previous comments, I have been a massive Pro Evo fan over the years. Even if FIFA is slightly better in this version (though I am not convenienced), it is not as easy for me to switch over. The history of superior, realistic gameplay and completely different buttons- I have never owned a FIFA title- means that I will once again opt for Pro Evo. For one, I prefer having a tight match where it is difficult to score. How does it feel when you score in FIFA? Nothing special! In Evo, you work hard to make the opening! Sweet!

Posted by TJ on September 06, 2009 at 10:19 AM BST #

I agree with the review.. When on Ps2 all I played was PES as it was streets ahead of FIFA. When the PS3 was release I thought that this trend would continue so I got PES. It was unplayable, the screen flicked and jumped and the gameplay was crap so I decided to try FIFA. I was not disappointed. Fifa 08 & 09 are truly great football games. They are MUCH more realistic than the PES counterparts. I will be buying FIFA 10 when it is released. Sorry PES, you are WAY WAY behind.

Posted by Damo on September 06, 2009 at 01:39 PM BST #

I think that EA sports can't be beaten when it comes to graphics and overall presentation. Any one have a problem with this, try comparing any of the NHL/NBA 2K sports games. Anyway, I digress, Brendan is right, Fifa has been cumbersome over the last few years, but Pro evo is very much a recycled version of everything since 05 IMO, with fast gameplay, shallow depth and pretty rigid defenders making it hard to score. Gonna go with Fifa next month

Posted by D Sween on September 06, 2009 at 01:56 PM BST #

One big problem with the FIFA series is that there's no FAI Cup but even worse you can't play in Europe no matter how many times you win the league! I really hope this will be sorted out for FIFA 10.

Posted by Pat Fenlon on September 06, 2009 at 02:54 PM BST #

Nah FIFA is still better

Posted by Adam on September 06, 2009 at 03:08 PM BST #

get out and play real football, you can turn in any direaction

Posted by mick l on September 06, 2009 at 03:41 PM BST #

Personally I think David O'Leary Total Soccer 2000 walks all over both of these games.

Posted by Will on September 06, 2009 at 05:21 PM BST #

There are reasons why there has been a change of wind and it has nothing to do with the core gameplay of either game. For one, Konami's misjudged implementation of the online system for PES 2008 and PES 2009: this generation of consoles has seen online gaming become a key feature with a large base of armchair players begging for online gaming and PES 2008 was virtually unplayable, online. Second, Peter Moore was appointed president of the EA Sports division, and he's a shrewd marketer, and he knows how to work the media (his sterling work is present in this article). Third, Konami have left several modes stagnate - particularly Master League which hasn't changed since PES4 - and they wouldn't have implemented 'Become a Legend' mode in the European and American versions unless FIFA had (note, Konami had already implemented the mode a decade earlier in the Japanese versions of Winning Eleven). _________________________________________________________ To the writer of this article, it's not possible to accurately assess one or two games in the time you had to play either game, as even, I myself, a competitive player on the PES circuit in the UK need weeks to find the chinks in the game's armour.

Posted by 192.168.24.17 on September 06, 2009 at 06:48 PM BST #

I'm perfectly happy to stand by my assessment. A few things - I spent a lot more time playing 'Become A Legend' in the last couple of PES games and found it pretty frustrating - it just never quite took off the way the Master League in PES 2006 did, for example (btw I think PES 2006 was easy to score a lot of goals in once you cracked it). On gameplay, PES is a difficult game to turn over possession in and space is not well used. Playing PES and FIFA back to back was very illuminating and FIFA is clearly going to be a better game in my book. I've no problem with people disagreeing and everyone is welcome to their opinion.

Posted by Brendan Cole on September 07, 2009 at 03:05 PM BST #

Neokubrich (UK player above) - some of your comments came in marked spam so they wouldn't come through properly due to their length. Apols.

Posted by Brendan Cole on September 07, 2009 at 03:08 PM BST #

@ TJ, In fifa you can custom the buttons to whatever you want, I have them the same in FIFA as PRO EVO, and in FIFA its always a tough game, I always prefered PRO but you are missing out until you try FIFA.

Posted by Kenny on September 07, 2009 at 03:44 PM BST #

pes is better to play with mates coz of the better game play , while fifa is better playing the season mode, just hope pes sorts out the penos shoot outs in the new game

Posted by derek rogers on September 08, 2009 at 09:43 AM BST #

I'm dissapointed to read this, I was hoping for a PES revival. Ever since the playstation 3 PES has lost what it possessed. The gameplay seemed to be more simple than PES 6 and a poor editing system on 2008. I have changed to FIFA but PES will somewhat always have a place in my gaming heart, it's a shame they can't just return to their superior simulation roots.

Posted by Tyren Cooper on September 08, 2009 at 11:09 AM BST #

@ All - you can try out FIFA 10 as the demo hits PSN & XBL this week

Posted by Paul Mc on September 08, 2009 at 01:13 PM BST #

i love pro :)

Posted by aaron on September 08, 2009 at 10:50 PM BST #

@TJ 'For one, I prefer having a tight match where it is difficult to score. How does it feel when you score in FIFA? Nothing special! In Evo, you work hard to make the opening! Sweet!' - Have you been playing against the computer in Fifa on easy difficulty? Up the difficulty to world class and see how hard it is to hold onto a goalless draw, never mind score a goal or win a match for that matter. And in 2 player mode, I played against my housemates last night in Fifa 09, and it was 0-0 until the 85th minute when I finally managed to slot in 2 hard worked goals and win 2-0. Nothing wrong with the game at all.

Posted by Willy on September 09, 2009 at 03:02 PM BST #

Can anyone help me, my PS3 broke down last night the game starts up but but it freezes and wont go back on, the bottom of the PS3 seems to be very hot, is it over heating? its only 7 months old I had similar problem with my last one that one just wouldnt load any game, is it still under guarantee?

Posted by Kenny on September 11, 2009 at 10:50 AM BST #

Hey Kenny, that's an odd one... the 360 gets the Red Ring Of Death (RROD), and the PS3 is known to get the Yellow Light Of Death (YLOD), so as long as you don't see a yellow light, it should be safe... The bottom of the PS3 has been known to get pretty hot and scorch carpets, so just don't leave it on a carpet! But otherwise, I dunno... If it doesn't turn back on, it should be covered by Sony's warranty for 1 year, and they should take care of you, so you should be safe. Also, GameStop will honour a warranty for 1 year after purchase, and will swap your console over the counter for a brand new one if you still have a receipt.

Posted by Willy on September 11, 2009 at 12:29 PM BST #

Back on topic though, the Fifa 10 demo is excellent, I've noticed so many nice improvements - the interraction between the players' feet and the ball is much improved, movement & pass direction and player runs & AI intuition are much better that Fifa 09 also. Pretty happy with it! In addition to my other post, the PS2 version of Fifa 09 had quick free kicks, but the 360 version didn't, but in Fifa 10, it does! Another thing the PS2 09 version had the the 360 version didn't was handballs, so hopefully the 360 version of Fifa 10 has included this. I don't see why the PS2 version of Fifa 09 had so many features that the 360 version didn't have. The next gen consoles should include every feature imaginable, there's no excuse!

Posted by Willy on September 11, 2009 at 12:34 PM BST #

Agree with Willy, the FIFA 10 demo is excellent. Jostling for possession seems to be a big factor in the gameplay this year. Its quite hard to just use the right analogue stick to push the ball ahead and sprint by the defenders, like you could in 09. All in all im happy with the demo, will definitely be buying this.

Posted by Paul Mc on September 11, 2009 at 02:10 PM BST #

Sorry to hear that Kenny - warranty should still be good?

Posted by Brendan Cole on September 11, 2009 at 02:24 PM BST #

I think Brendan should organise an online tournament for all Fifa lovers on the blog. Or maybe you should just hand me the trophy already, I never lose.

Posted by Willy on September 11, 2009 at 04:38 PM BST #

Bring it on Willy!!

Posted by Stan on September 14, 2009 at 11:51 AM BST #

Ya I still have the warrenty from game stop so I should be ok, still got to download the FIFA demo, its class cant wait for the real thing. Thanks for the help guys.....

Posted by Kenny on September 15, 2009 at 06:12 AM BST #

This guy is obviously on a cut from EA, PES is way better than FIFA. Always has been and always will be.......

Posted by magic_mo on September 15, 2009 at 04:31 PM BST #

Kenny - could this be anything to do with your issue (Freezing caused by firmware): http://www.geek.com/articles/games/ps3-firmware-v301-released-to-fix-uncharted-freezing-20090916/

Posted by Brendan Cole on September 16, 2009 at 10:39 AM BST #

I fell in love with FIFA when i first played 07 on Gamecube, and it was fun until I got my first XBOX 360 and my first game was FIFA '08. That game changed everything i knew about footy gaming. Then I heard PES was better and since I couldn't believe it i bought PES 08 and I thought it was like 20 billion steps back compared to FIFA 08, it felt like they modeled the sprites after manikins more than the actual players themselves. Not to mention graphics were horrendous and game-play seemed almost fake and boring, they sprinted like robots. I felt like i was playing PES Irobot edition.

Posted by Kenny on September 17, 2009 at 04:45 PM BST #

i love fifa its always been my game but i will love to know if pro evolution is gonna have champions league in their game

Posted by Andres on September 17, 2009 at 09:20 PM BST #

all mylife i played pro evo and it was the best football game around. but latley it has been terible. pro evo is too easy and the players are to fast. so i gt rid of the pro evo and bought fifa which is on another level. this year i will buy fifa and recomend u all do.

Posted by abu on September 18, 2009 at 11:45 AM BST #

@magic_mo - I can't wait to go spend my massive cut from EA this weekend! Do you know where I can get it?

Posted by Brendan Cole on September 18, 2009 at 12:18 PM BST #

I feel this new pro evo is most REALISTIC football game to date. The previous versions allowed the attacking teams to dominate which made for unbalenced games and unrealistic scorelines. Pro evo is now more focused on passing and moving, Brenden what I feel is that you need to adapt your game play style to enjoy pro evo, not jut pick up the ball on the right hand side with messi and go on a slalam-run. Fifa has a range of more skills and tricks the majority you will never seen being done in a real match and the fact that any player can do the same skills makes it unrealistic, the only thing about Fifa I enjoyed was the authentic kits and the celebrations!

Posted by Daniel Kay on September 18, 2009 at 07:09 PM BST #

You will feel at first that Fifa is the superior game because it is a lot easier to play. With Pro you will find that with the teamvision where your opponents AI will learn to adapt to your every move and tactic that you will need to keep adapting your approach and positioning. The developers have put a huge focus on these tactics and made them a lot simpler to manage in the the new menus and also provide descriptions to help you along the way. The passing is not as fluid as Fifa at first but once you get used to the flick of the right stick for a perfectly weighted throughball or cross then you will feel a great sense of achievement. With shooting, Pro takes into account player pressure, power, goal distance and angle and direction of approach to the ball. Fifa allows you to press LB and shoot and score from 30 yards 80-85% of the time. Fifas online play is fantastic and was PES downfall last year. PES wont surpass FIFA online with Microsoft and Sony now handling the servers but it will be a huge improvement on previous outings.

Posted by Rab Nebula on September 19, 2009 at 03:21 AM BST #

I think pes was always the better one untill 2008. Fifa got a lot better and even in 2009 fifa was better than pes. But i have downloaded the demo on the ps3 for each of these and i think in 2010 pes is the best of the two. i think the game speed is a lot better and i do not like the hesitation on fifa.

Posted by Tom on September 20, 2009 at 04:19 PM BST #

Thanks Brenden for that, game stop told me to ring sony about my problem (hadnt enough credit to ring)and if they couldnt sort it over the phone to bring it back, it was working fine again at the weekend but after a while it frooze again and saying corrupt data for the game I was useing but hour later it was fine again, I dunno but its just peeing me off.

Posted by kenny on September 21, 2009 at 06:21 AM BST #

Since pes 6, the game has gone backwards with regards to playability and enjoyment of playing a real football game. Unfortunatly the Master league mode hasnt changed one bit. There is a stark lack of anything new or ivovative in the last few pes games. Konami are just banging out a 2nd rate footie game with new players too rake up the cash. I changed from fifa to pes in 04/05 cause pes was a much better game, i think ill reverse that trend this year, hopefully a decline in sales will give konami the kick up the backside they need to get pes great again.

Posted by Tom on September 21, 2009 at 11:50 AM BST #

Having played both demos im afraid to say that Fifa 10 has my money at the moment. For years right back to the days of ISS iwas a fan of pro evo but it has been downhill since pro evo 3. Fifa used to be very poor in my opinion with the only draw being its extensive package of Liecenced leagues. However now the gameplay curve has gone the other way now with Fifa having far superior gameplay and improving every year. Pro Evo feels almost the same as it did last year with minor tweaks to the gameplay. Not good enough really and the game needs a serious makeover if it is to once again be the No. 1 soccer game. I might add both games are still good and we are very lucky to have two wonderful games at our disposel!

Posted by Stephen on September 22, 2009 at 02:31 AM BST #

@Daniel - Maybe so, though running about with Messi is A1 fun! But - seriously - I think the only way to score in PES is to ping it about like a maniac on the deck from side to side for a while and then get your chance.....it's too easy to keep the ball. In 2010, the packed defence is the tactic against that and you often get 16 players within yards of the ball.

Posted by Brendan Cole on September 22, 2009 at 11:27 AM BST #

YOU ARE RIGHTH, THE BEST PES WAS THE 2007, BUY I DOWNLOADED THE DEMO OF 2010 AND IS AWSOME, I HOPE THE ONLINE GAME TOO

Posted by ALDO on September 24, 2009 at 05:37 PM BST #

Played the Fifa Demo, Hadnt played Fifa in years, after 3 games I was scoring 3-4 goals a game. Fifa is plainly too easy. The only thing Fifa has on PES is licensing, and if the spent a little less on that and more on making a challenging game.

Posted by Ken on September 25, 2009 at 03:50 PM BST #

What can y say...DFifa 2010 seems to be very promising. At least,the demo shows this.My opinion is that Fifa was more of an arcade game,far too easy and robotic. The diference now is that the players have full control of the ball.Dribbling is superb, so as passing, And the opponents*CPU) are great in terms of attacking and shots. Is a very enjoyable game. I'll surely buy Fifa 2010.

Posted by Smile Bam on September 26, 2009 at 01:16 PM BST #

Played both demos and I still feel Fifa is the best game by a distance. I think I will buy both for some variation. I think they are both fairly easy on the hardest difficulty. Especially Pro Evo and this is coming from some one who hasnt played much pro evo over the years. I have always been a fifa guy. I usually only play a few seasons on Fifa then use is solely for online play. The games against the computer i find pretty boring, its just constantly trying to break the defence down with the opposing team barely leaving their own half. Although on the demo its much more open. Fifa all the way this year.

Posted by Steven D on September 27, 2009 at 01:57 AM BST #

It is horrific in PES2009 when you opponent beats your last defender, and without you pushing ANY buttons your last man will slide the attacker over, straight red card. Without you pushing a button. I would forgive it if it was a one of occurance, but it happened time and time again until I just got so frustrated that I stopped playing. I havent bought a FIFA game since 03... I think this might be the year I go back... Also, the mighty Hornets are in it!

Posted by Elliot on September 27, 2009 at 11:57 PM BST #

what are u talking about?.. the only major problem with last 2 pes has been its become so easy lately...u can score 6/7 against any team,its become more fifaish....and u say its very hard...I don't think u ve been a good pes player.... and honestly I think pes2010 is gonna rock with all the UI improvements and new card based tactical setups..... after playing the demo I feel konami is back at their best... u love fifa at first sight,but pes takes time to get used..but after playing 2 masterleague seasons u r hooked to the game 4 life..... only thing I hope is they make it more difficult this time around.... try out the slider system for tactical changes...its awsome...after bad yrs 08n09,I hope this yr our waiting is worth it.... PESforLIFE...

Posted by aravindvr on September 29, 2009 at 07:10 AM BST #

I just downloadid fifa10 the check it out. And played the pes10 demo like 50 times now. I must say both games are really good this year. To start of both games have great graphics.But fifa still does have better facial animations and better goal celebrations. But aside of that the gameplay of pes10 feels more realistic. Yes it is hard to score a goal and the teams play defensive but I dont think this is a weak spot of the game. It just makes it more of a challange and more fun to play. There is another thing fifa does better do. The tackles in fifa are more realistic. Players seem to really struggle to keep or get the ball and fall down more realistic. But in my opinion Pes10 is still a bit better. I enjoy the gameplay a lot more and its more of a challange. But I guess it just depends on what type of gamer you are witch one you will be buying this year. Both games are great. The one has way more gameoptions en licenses and the other just has better gameplay.

Posted by Dutchy on September 30, 2009 at 02:20 PM BST #

Been a PES man since International Superstar Soccer on the PS1 and have bought every PES release since this right up until PES 2009 last year on the PS3 and as much as i hate to say it PES is in major decline, so much so that for the first time since 98, i bought myself a copy of FIFA 09, and i have to say FIFA was the better game last year, now as the release date of both 2010 version of the games gets closer i thought i'd download myself the demo's of both games and see which one is looking in the better shape, and once more it pains me to say it but FIFA seems like the better games, in fact i'd go as far as to say that FIFA blows PES out of the water!!! I know its only the demo versions but FIFA seems like the much better game, So PES fans (myself included) i think its time to wake up and realise that the King is dead, long live FIFA!!!

Posted by ShieldsoRFC on September 30, 2009 at 03:42 PM BST #

Bought my copy of Fifa 2010 last night. What. A. Game. Hope all ye Fifa nay sayers enjoy your clearly inferior pile of muck that has become Pro Evo in a couple of weeks.

Posted by Stan on October 02, 2009 at 11:30 AM BST #

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